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    Posted: 24/Jun/2008 at 1:43pm
Hi
At Surrey CC we have been developing our use of Proclass since last year. We've done a spend analysis etc and started reaping the benefits. However, we too had the problem with the existing Social Care categories. We had a major consultancy firm in doing some work with us in that area of spend, who came up with their own set, and I've just asked our managers to comment on how these might map to the SECE proposals above.
There were a few comments:
- we'd like to see respite care somewhere
- there's no Domiciliary Children's care?
- why have BME services when Proclass is 'specifically designed not to support policies' in this area?
All that said, we do welcome the initiative to develop this area.
I'm also pleased to see the numeric coding schema for categories, and am about to build that into my spend model.
I trust this helps - do drop a reply with contact details if you want to get in touch.
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Derek Lancaster
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Following receipt of the heading suggestions from SECE, CIL queried some of the classifications suggested. The transport questions have yet to be answered, but following clarification of the Social Care headings the following revisions are now offered for discussion as being more meaningful, and should hopefully analyse the spend information in a more effective and efficient way.

 

Other views on this are welcome from the forum.

Top Level Level 2  Level 3 Clarification information
       
Adult Social Community Care Supplies & Services Domiciliary Care   Service
Adult Social Community Care Supplies & Services Day Care   Service
Adult Social Community Care Supplies & Services Residential Care   Service
Adult Social Community Care Supplies & Services Nursing Homes   Service
Adult Social Community Care Supplies & Services Residential Homes for Older People   Service
Adult Social Community Care Supplies & Services Extra Care Sheltered Housing   Service
Adult Social Community Care Supplies & Services BME Services   Service
Adult Social Community Care Supplies & Services Asylum Seekers   Service
Adult Social Community Care Supplies & Services Advice & Counselling Services   Service
       
Childrens Social Community Care Supplies & Services Residential Care   Service
Childrens Social Community Care Supplies & Services Adoption & Fostering   Service
Childrens Social Community Care Supplies & Services After School Care   Service
Childrens Social Community Care Supplies & Services Baby Sitting Services   Service
Childrens Social Community Care Supplies & Services Childcare Services   Service
Childrens Social Community Care Supplies & Services Children's Activity Centres   Service
Childrens Social Community Care Supplies & Services Nurseries & Creches   Service
Childrens Social Community Care Supplies & Services Child Care Services Transport   Service
Childrens Social Community Care Supplies & Services Specialist Domestic Violence    Service
Childrens Social Community Care Supplies & Services Education   Service
Childrens Social Community Care Supplies & Services BME Services   Service
Childrens Social Community Care Supplies & Services Unaccompanied Asylum Seeking Children   Service
Childrens Social Community Care Supplies & Services Adolescent Mental Health Services   Service
Childrens Social Community Care Supplies & Services Youth Offending Services   Service
       
Disabled Childrens Social Community Care Supplies & Services Day Services   Service
Disabled Childrens Social Community Care Supplies & Services Residential Care   Service
Disabled Childrens Social Community Care Supplies & Services Education   Service
Disabled Childrens Social Community Care Supplies & Services Care Services   Service
Disabled Childrens Social Community Care Supplies & Services Play   Service
Disabled Childrens Social Community Care Supplies & Services Leisure Early Years   Service
Disabled Childrens Social Community Care Supplies & Services Volunteering Youth Support Services   Service
       
Social Community Care Supplies & Services  Supplies Supplies Incontinence products etc.
Social Community Care Supplies & Services  Supplies Equipment Wheelchairs, Stair lift products or Supply & Fit, etc.
       
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Please note all spellings are corrected and standardized during our quality assurance process
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I hadn't spotted the spelling mistakes - I simpy copied info sent to me by others in social care and highways.
 
 
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Could you be clearer about your Highways recommendations?  Fencing is shown twice and many of your other suggestions are already in the current Proclass list.  Or am I misunderstanding your layout?
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Sorry, also "domiciliary" not "domicillary"
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Jennie
 
"Asylum" not "Assylum".
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Continued...
 
And here are the suggestions for Highways:
 
Top Level Level 2  Level 3
Building Construction Materials and Services Fencing  
Consultancy  Highways Traffic Planning
Environmental Services Graffiti Removal  
  Street Cleansing  
  Street Lighting  
  Technical Equipment Testing
  Waste Management Waste Collection
    Abandoned Vehicles (Removal)
Health and Safety  Services  
Highways Capital Improvements  
  Carriageway surfacing  
  Drainage  
  Earthworks  
  Emergency response  
  Fencing  
  Footway surfacing  
  Grass cutting  
  Intelligent Transport Systems  
  Safety Audit  
  Safety Engineering  
  Signs and Lines  
  Structures  
  Surface Dressing  
  Traffic Signals  
  Verges  
Highway Equipment and Materials   Services Road Surveys
Horticultural Trees and Shrubs  
Traffic Management Traffic Control  
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I have been doing quite a bit of work around new categories and it has been recognised that in particular Social Care and Highways are areas that need to be looked at.
 
As such here are the suggestions that have been proposed for Social Care (Terry - as discussed with you in Southampton in April):
 
Level 1 Level 2 Level 3 Detailed descriptipon
Social Care Adult Care Services Adult Social Care Home Help Domicillary Care
Social Care Adult Care Services Adult Social Care Mental Health Day Care
Social Care Adult Care Services Adult Social Care Placements Residential Care Homes
Social Care Adult Care Services Adult Social Care Placements Nursing Homes
Social Care Adult Care Services Adult Social Care Placements Residential Homes for Older People
Social Care Adult Care Services Adult Social Care Sheltered Housing Extra Care Sheltered Housing
Social Care Adult Care Services Adult Social Care Social  Services BME Services
Social Care Adult Care Services Adult Social Care Assylum Seekers Assylum Seekers
Social Care Advice & Councelling Advice & Councelling Alcohol Alcohol Misuse - Advice & Counselling
Social Care Advice & Councelling Advice & Councelling Drugs Drugs Misuse - Advice & Counselling
Social Care Advice & Councelling Advice & Councelling Helplines Helplines
Social Care Advice & Councelling Advice & Councelling Other Other
Social Care Advice & Councelling Advice & Councelling Psych Stress Management
Social Care Advice & Councelling Advice & Councelling Services Counselling & Advice Services
Social Care Child Care Services Child Care Services Children's Homes
Social Care Child Care Services Child Care Services Adoption & Fostering Adoption & Fostering
Social Care Child Care Services Child Care Services After School Care After School Care
Social Care Child Care Services Child Care Services Baby Sitters Baby Sitters
Social Care Child Care Services Child Care Services Childcare Services Childcare Services
Social Care Child Care Services Child Care Services Children's Activity Centres Children's Activity Centres
Social Care Child Care Services Child Care Services Nurseries & Creches Nurseries & Creches
Social Care Child Care Services Child Care Services Transport Bus & Coach Operators
Social Care Child Care Services Child Care Services Transport Coach Hire
Social Care Child Care Services Child Care Services Transport Taxis & Private Hire
Social Care Child Care Services Child Care Services Transport specialist Domestic Violence 
Social Care Child Care Services Child Care Services Eductaion schools/learning
Social Care Children's Social Care Chirldren's Social Care  Residential Care
Social Care Children's Social Care Chirldren's Social Care  Fostering
Social Care Children's Social Care Chirldren's Social Care  BME Services
Social Care Children's Social Care Chirldren's Social Care  Unaccompanied Assylum Seeking Children
Social Care Children's Social Care Chirldren's Social Care  Adolescent Mental Health Services
Social Care Children's Social Care Chirldren's Social Care  Youth Offending Services
Social Care Children's Social Care Disability Day Services
Social Care Children's Social Care Disability Residential
Social Care Children's Social Care Disability Educational
Social Care Children's Social Care Disability Care Services
Social Care Children's Social Care Disability Play
Social Care Children's Social Care Disability leisure Early Years
Social Care Children's Social Care Disability Volunteering Youth Support Services
Social Care Equipment Social Care Equipment Disability Equipment - Manufacturers & Suppliers
Social Care Equipment Social Care Equipment Mobility Equipment
Social Care Equipment Social Care Equipment Stairlifts - Manufacturers & Installers
Social Care Supporting People Adults
Social Care Supporting People Children 
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Posts: 31 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/May/2008 at 11:32am
These are the 2 new proposed categories with the best fit UNSPSC, other comments welcome. Numbered version will be issued if requested.
 
 
Top Level

Level 2

Level 3

UNSPSC

 

Financial Services

Grants

 

93150000

Public administration and finance services

Financial Services

Subscriptions

 

94100000

Work related organizations



Edited by tkashmore - 08/May/2008 at 11:36am
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