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We have looked into the following requests for additional headings:

Information Communication Technology - Please add Leasing at Level 2 - Agree

  • Vehicle Management - I see no category that would fit hiring of vehicles, could you suggest an existing category or please create a new one at Level 2 - Please provide a valid reason why 'Leasing' is not adequate?

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  • Social Community Care Supplies & Services – Adult - Please add Mental Health Services at Level 3 - Agree

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  • Social Community Care Supplies & Services – Children - Please add Advice & Counselling Services at Level 3 - Agree
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    Surely the right thing to do in these circumstances is to seek corrected behaviour, not scrap a perfectly good and useful set of codes?
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    Posts: 30     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/May/2009 at 3:38pm
    Draft version C9.1.4 is now available to download from the ProClass website.  Please click HERE to discuss this new draft.
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    Posts: 31     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07/May/2009 at 10:25am

    The original two principles of ProClass are to:

    1. Target and provide information on high value expenditure

    2. Have a hierarchy based around service departments (e.g. Housing, Leisure, Social Care)

    The heading of ‘Consultancy’ should really only reflect expenditure of a general nature not covered by other headings. Unfortunately it contained many headings that were also within the service department headings. This was leading to confusion as to where this expenditure should be allocated

    As we are not in a position to correct anyone’s behaviour. We have to ensure two things:

    1. that the classification structure is able to provide accurate information on expenditure.
    2. that the headings are easy to apply and not ambiguous or duplicated.

    That is why the changes have taken place in ‘Consultancy’. They have not been ‘scrapped’ merely moved to more appropriate place in the classification
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    Posts: 3     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06/Oct/2009 at 2:55pm
    We have just found out the hard way that you have reused number codes from version 8 for version 9.  As we use ProClass this means for example that on loading your new table we are now sending Security spend to Retail! 
    V 8
    192100 Facilities & Management Services Security
    V9
    192100 Facilities & Management Services Retail
     
    Do you have a table that maps from V 8.2 to V 9.1?  
     
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    Susan

    A number of people expressed anxiety about this when version 9 was announced but as I read Terry's response dated 11.43 am on 6 May the relationships between headings and numbers was going to be retained.
     
    Terry - what happened?
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    Posts: 31     		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/Oct/2009 at 3:32pm
    It was agreed that that the numbers of moved headings would be retained after version C8.3 to solve this very problem. All older versions allowed numbers to be changed. Unfortunately we have no facility to keep all the older versions mapped to the current one. It will not happen to any versions later than C8.3.
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